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The Searcher
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Thanksgiving??
by HereIgo inwith thanksgiving around the corner, i thought it would be interesting to hear how you, your family or other jw's you knew handled/celebrated thanksgiving.
it seems to me that most jw's view it as harmless and unofficially celebrate it the day before or the day after the actual holiday.
growing up, my mother would host a dinner the day after thanksgiving and used the excuse " well the traditional food for the dinner is discounted at this time, might as well have a dinner".
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The Searcher
"Therefore do not let anyone judge you with respect to food or drink, or in the matter of a feast, new moon, or Sabbath days." (Colossians 2:16 - N.E.T.) -
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1 Step Forward and 3 Steps Back: Trying to Get My Mom to See 'The Light' (Oh the Irony!)
by Sorry inrecently, my mother's been hounding me to do personal study (i think she's slowly realizing i'm becoming disillusioned with the organization and is trying to reign me back in).
i don't know what made me do this, but i decided to test the waters by challenging 'new light'.
she asked me what i learned in personal study, so i brought up organ transplants and the wt flip floppy stance on them (thanks jwfacts!).
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The Searcher
I feel that your situation is a prime reason why the org is pushing their latest propaganda - "the G.B. is not inspired - they're imperfect men who have admitted their errors in the past and have updated the "truth" when Jehovah revealed it to them."
This drivel is what J.W.'s are being fed as "spiritual food from the slave" in order to fend off the ever-increasing exposure of the org's anti-scriptural teachings.
Be prepared to hear it being parroted by a Witness near you.
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New H.Q.'s Lake
by The Searcher inwanting to discover if the org's recent self-praise regarding carrying out remedial work on a dam at their new h.q.
location was justified, i contacted the new york state parks department to ask a simple question:.
#1 email.
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The Searcher
Thanks for the info betterdaze.
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The Searcher
NY44M: in the org's case - a successful decayed!
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New H.Q.'s Lake
by The Searcher inwanting to discover if the org's recent self-praise regarding carrying out remedial work on a dam at their new h.q.
location was justified, i contacted the new york state parks department to ask a simple question:.
#1 email.
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The Searcher
Wanting to discover if the org's recent self-praise regarding carrying out remedial work on a dam at their new H.Q. location was justified, I contacted the New York State Parks department to ask a simple question:
#1 email
"I am writing to enquire if Sterling Forest Lake is now owned by the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society, or is it publicly owned?
Thanking you for your time and trouble,"
Searcher.Response:
"Good Afternoon Searcher:
Sterling Forest State Park is managed by New York State Parks."
Best Wishes,
NYS Parks#2 email
"I'm sorry if my question wasn't clear. I appreciate that the Sterling Forest State Park isn't owned by the WTBTS, but are they now owners/responsible for the lake itself, or is the lake not their legal concern?" Searcher.
To date - no response.
Perhaps someone on the other side of the pond could have more success in discovering if the org is responsible for the lake and its infrastructure.
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Millionaire JW Elder hypocrite?!
by Alostpuppydog inso i know one should remove his own stick from his own eye before ones self judges another, but i noticed something.
it seems that the wealthy witnesses are the elders, the circuit overseers, the governing body... are they really different from any other 'worldly' religions or even organizations?
i mean look at the jewels the friggen pope wears.
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The Searcher
Highlighting the blatant doctrinal falsehoods of the org will be far more effective in awakening J.W.'s to the truth, whereas pointing the finger at "prominent" J.W.'s lifestyles - or even J.W. paedophiles - will be met with, "Well, every religion has bad in it; even the 12 apostles included Judas."
If people focus on the head of the snake - the organization's dogmas & practices - that will be more beneficial. IMO.
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This week's bs, bible study help
by Normalfulla inhi all , because i'm useless and can't be bothered studying, i need some rebuttals for the excuses given in this week's bs , (i love how the acronym matches its origin) my uber dub father pleaded with me to study this week's book study as it addresses my issues with them being directed by holy spirit etc and how jah reveals things progressively , problem is i know there's a great argument to put fwd with proper preparation but i'm onto my 2nd drink of the evening and can't be assed , please unload some smoking guns i can take with me tomorrow .
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chur.
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The Searcher
Paragraph 15 - "The disciples did not comprehend this vital point and later asked the resurrected Jesus: “Are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?” Jesus, however, chose not to reveal any more details at that time." (Acts 1:6,7)
False! Jesus was not withholding the information until a later date, because he bluntly told them that such knowledge and information belonged only to the Father. Jesus himself didn't know - so how could he choose "not to reveal any more details?" (Matthew 24:36)
The org uses slimy, deceptive wording yet again, to mislead the sheep and conceal what the Bible really teaches!
Best wishes for your discussion.
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November broadcast makes thier strategy clear.
by Crazyguy inthier talk at this summers district conventions about shunning faders was a bit unclear and many said it was pointing out that only jws were to shun wrongdoers not specifically faders.
this new broadcast makes it now obvious that those who leave the meetings have left jehovah so therefore they are to be shunned as a form of discipline.
there can be no mistake that they do not want any of thier cult members associating with faders or those that have left the cult.
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The Searcher
Parasite: a person who receives support, advantage, or the like, from another or others without giving any useful or proper return, as one who lives on the hospitality of others. http://www.dictionary.com/browse/parasite
Can you think of anyone who fits the bill?
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November JW broadcast is up, this time on not telling the truth, shunning
by bohm innovember broadcast is up:.
https://www.jw.org/download/?fileformat=mp4&output=html&pub=jwb&issue=201611.
we learn interesting things.
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The Searcher
Adding to SMIDDY, FREDDO, and Pale Emperor's comments:
Very conveniently, (for the org's perverted purposes) the awakened teenager voluntarily walks out of the family home.
Ok WTBTS/J.W.'s, now show the other side of the coin - when the teenager doesn't leave the family home. Demonstrate how their family situation involving meals, holidays, etc. is unaffected by remaining at home.
Once you show this paradox, try providing scriptural evidence for this contradiction as proof for the J.W.'s who must shun their child who "moved out" of the family home.
In the J.W. world, God's laws on shunning only apply to a person's zip code/postcode!!!!
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"Keep in touch as a family." He said.
by Darkknight757 inwell today was the big day.
we finally let the cat out of the bag to the in-laws about watchtower.
previously there were unknown rumors being spread about me and today i found out why the wife and i are being shunned.
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The Searcher
Well done Darkknight. Totally free now!
As for your F.I.L. and other J.W. family members, I would sincerely doubt if you will ever be having any family get-togethers with them.
Kind of you to leave the elderly man with his "beliefs" intact. If he's sincere, maybe one day he'll ask you to discuss your reasons for leaving "the truth."